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# Podcast #128 – The Best Storage for Veeam with Object First

by Harold Fritts on June 1, 2024

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Another live podcast! Thank you to all who attended.

For this show, Brian sits down with Anthony Cusimano, Director of Technical Marketing, at Object First. If you are not familiar with Object First, you can check out our deep dive earlier this month, [Object First Ootbi: Simple Ransomware-Proof Backups For Veeam.](https://www.storagereview.com/review/object-first-ootbi-simple-ransomware-proof-backups-for-veeam)

 Here’s a brief intro to [Object First](https://objectfirst.com/ootbi-best-storage-for-veeam/thirdparty-storagereview?utm_source=storagereview&utm_medium=article&utm_campaign=promo). It was founded by the original founders of Veeam and introduced its flagship product, [Ootbi (Out-of-the-Box-Immutability)](https://www.storagereview.com/news/object-first-ootbi-backup-appliance-for-veeam-launched), in 2023. Despite the common skepticism surrounding the notion of “ransomware-proof” technology, especially in the context of backups and storage, the technical prowess and on-premise testing of Ootbi suggest they can make this promise a reality for many organizations.

[![]()](https://www.storagereview.com/review/object-first-ootbi-simple-ransomware-proof-backups-for-veeam)

Anthony has been with Object First for over two years and serves as its Chief Evangelist and Director of Technical Marketing. Prior to joining Object First, Anthony spent six years in sales and marketing with Veritas Technologies. Throughout his career, he has focused on security and preventing cyber attacks.

This is an engaging discussion covering the departure of Veeam founders to establish an appliance hardware company, that runs Veeam! Customers enjoy enhanced security by controlling both the software and hardware.

If you don’t have the time to watch end-to-end, we have highlighted segments below.

00:00  Introduction

- Object First background
- What was once old is new again
- Focus on Veeam customers
- Ootbi short intro

05:00  Getting more information

- A little detail on our deep dive
- It’s all about security
- Immutability Flag

11:00  Security Measures

- Why immutability is important
- Educating the masses
- Making life easier
- Getting some of your time back

16:00  Questions from YouTube viewers

- Implementing security
  - The reasons for immutability
  - Educating the users
  - How to make it more secure

20:00  Beating the drum for Zero Trust

- Zero Trust Data Resilience
- Research paper download to enhance security
- Update cadence

25:00  Cooking what’s next

- Enhancements
- Easy updates
- Solid hardware
- Solid software
- Hinting what’s coming

30:00  Looking at mid-enterprise

- Options for more enterprise customers
- Reaching out for feedback

35:00  Hey! What about AI?

- Compliance and analytics
- Hold on to that data
- 30 minutes in, and this is the first AI conversation
- Things can only get bigger
- Slow backup vs slow recovery

40:00  Attacks work because they are clever

- And devastating
- It’s more than just data
- Organizations need to practice the plays just like a football team
- Practice the processes
- Attacks cause surgery delays
- Comments from Chrome Donkey and Beard of Knowledge

45:00  Talking hardware

- Appliance configuration
- How it works
- Eliminate bottlenecks
- What guides hardware decisions
- Taking customer feedback

50:00  The case for smaller customers

- There’s no value in free
- Ensure true immutability
- Internal malice

55:00  Cutting the tube

- Anthony talks about the SR liquid cooling video
- Assume breach, verify integrity
- Internal breaches
- Accidental deletions
- Beware of puppetry

60:00  Neverending Story

- Anthony’s banner
- How it relates
- Brian’s luck dragon with wings
- Wrapping up

65:00  Wrap up

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### Harold Fritts

I have been in the tech industry since IBM created Selectric. My background, though, is writing. So I decided to get out of the pre-sales biz and return to my roots, doing a bit of writing but still being involved in technology.

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